Folks, I'm not feeling the best right now. A subtle dizziness has crept up on me throughout this week, and a couple of hours ago it became a lot less subtle. You might say that I'm a victim of pre-debate "spin."
There is some possibility I'll be revisiting the doctor again tomorrow. If I end up in another bloody hospital room, I just hope they don't stash me within earshot of the debate, because the sound of that man's voice is the surest emetic on the market.
I can't write as much as I would like right now, but I do want to mention some of the many stories out there which deserve your attention. So let's go rapidly tripping through the hyperlinks...
What is most disturbing in Trump’s sworn statements is the amount of nonsense he spouts as he mangles the English language into meanings no rational person could accept. An unsuccessful “development by Donald Trump” is not a “development by Donald Trump.” A successful project built by another developer who paid to have Trump’s name on the building is a “Donald Trump development.” A payment of $400,000 equals a payment of $1 million. An ownership stake of 30 percent is actually a 50 percent stake. In a single sentence, he says he knows some people’s names but not their identities, as if talking about Batman and Superman. He studied résumés, but he only glanced at them. The list goes on, with one point in common: Every one of his answers, while under oath, depends not on the truth but on whether it makes him look good.
As you know, Trump campaign head honcho Steve Bannon (of Breitbart ill-fame) was caught illegally registered to vote in Florida, listing a fake address. So now he has re-registered at another address. Bannon's alleged "roommate," one Andrew Badolato, is a very interesting fellow. He ties into all sorts of other interesting individuals: Spooks and crooks and even a key figure in the infamous Skyway "coke jet" scandal. Some of you may recall that I devoted several previous posts to that bust; the key investigator was and is the remarkable Daniel Hopsicker, who looks into Bannon and his bud here. It is remarkable stuff.
Stock fraud, for example, an increasingly popular pastime in Florida, which provided links between Badolato and names already notorious for being part of an ongoing criminal conspiracy.
The location varies between Sarasota and St. Petersburg, Florida, home to St Petersburg-Clearwater International Airport, where at least two Badolato associates were involved with companies owning drug planes, which took off with some regularity from there on flights down to South America and back.
From the very beginning, I've always felt that there was something ultra-suspicious about Breitbart's site. It was always extraordinarily well-funded from Day One, even though I could see no comprehensible business model. Where did the money come from?
Who is Steve Bannon?
Who, for that matter, is Palmer Luckey, the wealthy creator of Oculus Rift and the secret power behind the successful Trumpian effort to control Reddit, Facebook and other forms of social media? His main helper is white nationalist freak Milo Yiannopoulos, who simultaneously functions as one of Steve Bannon's main propagandists. Here's a story demonstrating the connection between Luckey and the racist right.
Oculus founder Palmer Luckey financially backed a pro-Trump political organization called Nimble America, a self-described “social welfare 501(c)4 non-profit” in support of the Republican nominee.
Along with Luckey, Nimble America was founded by two moderators of Reddit’s r/The_Donald, which helped popularize Trump-themed white supremacist and anti-Semitic memes along with 4Chan and 8Chan. A questionnaire to become a moderator at r/The_Donald posted in March had applicants answer the questions “Is there a difference between white nationalism and white supremacy?” and “Was 9/11 an inside job?”
Luckey still works at Facebook, the social network confirmed to The Verge, raising questions of objectivity within a social network that's been acting like a media company, with editorial teams and, more recently, algorithms defining the news its users see. Luckey is the second prominent person within Facebook's ranks to use their personal wealth to pull for Trump, after board member Peter Thiel pledged as a California delegate to the candidate and spoke in support of him at the Republican National Convention.
I don't know why Trump is even bothering with his massive final-month ad buy. TV no longer matters. Facebook matters, and Trump captured Facebook a long time ago.
These politicians share Trump’s populist contempt for the traditional political elite. They share his authoritarian views on crime and justice. But most importantly, they share his xenophobia: They despise immigrants, vowing to close the borders to refugees and economic migrants alike, and are open in their belief that Muslims are inherently dangerous.
These parties’ values are too similar, and their victories coming too quickly, for their success to be coincidental. Their platforms, a right-wing radicalism somewhere between traditional conservatism and the naked racism of the Nazis and Ku Klux Klan, have attracted widespread support in countries with wildly different cultures and histories.
The piece identifies France's Jean-Marie Le Pen as the father of today's international far-right movement.
In fact, the FN’s rhetoric is often quite similar to Trump’s. "Tomorrow the immigrants will move in with you, eat your soup, and they will sleep with your wife, your daughter or your son," Le Pen famously warned in 1984.
The party’s triumph that year proved that a new kind of far-right politics, with an electoral strategy rooted in xenophobic populism, could succeed in the postwar era.
"FN" stands for National Front, the infuriatingly successful quasi-neo-fascist party in France
That shows the continent is moving toward a political realignment more favorable to the Kremlin, according to Konstantin Malofeev, a Russian multimillionaire whose former employees played major roles in Ukraine’s rebellion and who now advocates for closer ties with Europe’s far right.
“This is the start of the end of the system,” Malofeev said in Moscow.
Obviously, electing Trump would be Putin's crowning achievement. Although Trump has sent mixed signals on NATO, I think that he spoke his true feelings when he called NATO "obsolete" and seemed to welcome the breakup of the organization. Trump also seems to want rid of the United Nations.
Parting shot: Trump keeps increasing his numbers, slowly but steadily, while Clinton's percentage holds steady. It's clear that much of Trump's surge has come not from disaffected Clintonites but from Gary Johnson supporters. Heretofore, Johnson had captured both unhappy Democrats -- mostly BernieBros -- and unhappy Republicans. From what I've read, the major party voters who decided to go Libertarian were split about 50/50, D-vs-R.
That was the case until about a month ago. Alas, in more recent times, the anti-Trump Republicans began drifting back to Trumpland. Meanwhile, the BernieBros will never ever give up on their anti-Hillary tizzy fit.
After all, she gave speeches to Goldman Sachs executives. Unforgivable!
So now these snotty young purists have decided to vote for the Libertarian, who would remove all regulations from Goldman. Of course, any "liberal" who voted for Johnson is really voting for Trump. President Trump, being a dimwit, will no doubt hand over much of the workload to Steve Bannon -- formerly of Goldman.
I may be feeling lightheaded right now, but I can still see the world more clearly than can any of the ignorant, immature mucus-monsters who have joined the "Bernie or Bust" brigade.
Hope you feel better soon! Since you wanted to filter the debate through your readers, maybe simply set up a pseudo "Live Blog" post where people can leave comments as they watch?
posted by prowlerzee : 9:27 AM
As a Johnson voter, let me make my case: I simply won't be a part of the "lesser of two evils" campaign. I won't pick D vs R with the sole reasoning of, "We can't let the other side win" because I believe neither D or R are capable of successfully running this country.
This year, both major parties have propped up the absolute worst choices imaginable as their nominee. Neither is acceptable. This means I either stay home, or I pick someone else who I feel is at vaguely capable of expressing part of the policies I want as my President.
Guilting me into voting for your choice (regardless of which brand of wingnuttery you subscribe to) is not a valid campaign strategy. Telling me I'm stupid isn't, either, which is one of the many reasons people are going with Trump after being repeatedly beaten over the head with their supposed ignorance.
There's simply no reason that the Democratic Party should be even this close to losing to Donald Trump, except you propped up HRC as the nominee. Not in 2008, and not in 2016. Couldn't been Sanders, O'Malley, even Joe f'ckin Biden would've gone better. You even had a potential health scare that could've re-adjusted your ticket before it was too late and avoided Sanders because he'd quit the Party by this point, but nope...
This entire election is a farce. Also, as a consumer of "main stream media," I'm getting tired of being told how stupid I am for not supporting Clinton. It's the same mindset that's just locking-in Trump voters harder than ever. The entire Democrat strategy is built around elitism, and it's failing. You guys have only yourselves to thank for President Trump on November 8th.
posted by A left-leaning Independent : 9:47 AM
Joe--I hope you feel better soon.
"Independent"--I hope for your sake that Putin is paying you directly, because Trump is notorious for stiffing his contractors. ;)
Joseph, First and foremost, take care of yourself. If you want and can, leave the comments open. If not, we will wait for you. M
posted by Anonymous : 1:43 PM
I agree with 'a left leaning independent'.
Democrats nominated the one candidate who could lose to Trump. The one candidate who has worse honest and trustworthy numbers -amazing
posted by gerry : 3:40 PM
"Left leaning" Johnson voter, you are not stupid, you are deliberately mean and sexist and if you don't realize that you're still not stupid, you are lying, maybe even also to yourself. Sorry your penis is so threatened by a qualified woman who would work tirelessly to move our country forward. This election is not about you, o wounded feelings privileged one.
posted by prowlerzee : 4:00 PM
Joseph, I am watching! ! She looks incredible. I wish I could look as good at her age. No sign of weakness or illness.
posted by Anonymous : 9:26 PM
Lester Holt is doing a good job so far. Donnie just went there....stop and frisk. And he advertised his latest hotel. He said, I will get to Pensilvania Ave one way or another. WOW M
posted by Anonymous : 9:54 PM
He just mentioned that he has the support of the police and NRA and then he went back to stop and frisk M
posted by Anonymous : 9:57 PM
Pz and Joe.
First of all I hope Joe is OK. Look after yourself Joe.
Secondly, Prowlerzee, I feared that what the commenter says might be so -that a minority of Dem and Independent support might not back HRC. The fact that one voter feels like that proves nothing. But if 5% of the independent potential support felt that way then it's a problem. Telling such people they have little penises may well be how you feel, and it may even be true. But it isn't a way to persuade people to support a candidate they arnt convinced by.
Is there really any upside to abusing those who leaning left but came to a different conclusion? Maybe they will change their mind again?
posted by Anonymous : 10:00 PM
He is pandering to blacks now. She just gave a zinger! I think he is un-nerved. He went there.....Blumenthal, birther, the wall....he going there.... M
posted by Anonymous : 10:01 PM
He is pandering to blacks now. She just gave a zinger! I think he is un-nerved. He went there.....Blumenthal, birther, the wall....he going there.... M
posted by Anonymous : 10:06 PM
She is going there now...Russia hacking our institutions. ....his approval of Putin....Donnie inviting Putin to hack. ... He is going after his endorsements ....ICE...the Generals He just insulted fat people He is rambling...cyber....he sounds ignorant He brought up ISIS
posted by Anonymous : 10:12 PM
Now they are onto ISIS... Holt asked about home grown terrorists... He is saying we should have taken the Oil...zinger from Hillary No oil no ISIS he says
posted by Anonymous : 10:18 PM
He is taking credit for something. ...NATO....he is being grilled about his stance about Iraq....Sean Hanity....I was against the war....Sean Hanity....believe me.....I have much better judgment temperment He just went on a rant Now Hillary's turn M
posted by Anonymous : 10:25 PM
She went there.....nuclear war...temperment. ..finger on the launch pad... He sounded crazy He is rambling.....China, N koria...Iran...Kerry....Cash....bad deal with Iran.....Bibi...Israel She is now re-assuring our allies that we will honor our promises She is going there.....the only plan is no plan with regards to ISIS, Iran, N Koria Back to ISIS.....Japan...we are losing money, she doesn't know about money
posted by Anonymous : 10:34 PM
Zinger.....Hillary He is wounded.......really wounded He is going to explode She is cool.... M
posted by Anonymous : 10:39 PM
He lost it She got under his skin Now....the MSM may have a different take But I am proud of Hillary. She held her ground. She didn't lose it. The Deplorables will declare him the winner. I think he was he usual ass notwithstanding all the preparation. M
posted by Anonymous : 10:44 PM
Joseph, I just finished watching the PBS live-stream of the Presidential debate. Hillary categorically won this. Trump imploded and hurt himself, perhaps worse than ever before. I cannot imagine a scenario in which he comes out on top this November. If he won, I really would wonder if our elections are rigged, by Silicon Valley proto-fascist "libertarians" (some are calling themselves "voluntaryists") like Peter Thiel, Palmer Luckey, John Carmack and other nasty (and I do mean, fucking nasty), greasy, pasty men. The kind of guys that, if you're a gay male, will have you running to the arms of your opposite gender. And this election, every gay male should be running to the arms of Hillary Clinton. You can be sure that I'll be voting for her and voting against Trump, with a vengeance. I will be proud to vote for and support Hillary, more proud to vote for her than anyone I have ever voted for, by a long shot.
posted by JSL : 10:48 PM
Please be well. Take your meds, etc. Youre needed. Thanks for all your work!
posted by Anonymous : 1:40 AM
I was too unnerved to watch....until I saw the live blog notes coming in.
So I watched from the middle on, and then went back and watched from the beginning.
Donald lost. And lost it. Bigly, to put it in his terms. And that is being semi-precise, to use another of his terms.
It was jaw-dropping, the things he said. When he said Hillary did not have the temperament to be president, and how that was the best thing about him, his temperament, everyone laughed, including Hillary, who could say no more than "Alrighty, then!"
And he snifffed and drank water throughout. And jabbed his finger in the air nonstop. While Hillary looked wonderful, poised and articulate and to the point.
Hard to pull a best moment out, but one of them was her response when he tried to sidestep having said she did not "look" presidential and claim he meant/said she did not have the stamina to be president.
At that point it was difficult to believe he was not actually trying to throw the debate on purpose, even before her perfect comeback.
I'm sure the internet will have a lot of fun with the "400 pound" hacker Donald dreamt up while opining on how "we have to get very, very tough on cyber."
I hope you are on the mend, Joseph, and this news will be a spot of cheer.
posted by prowlerzee : 2:19 AM
Harry, I understand your point, but I was never a "catch more flies with honey" type. I'm steadfastly in the call a sexist a sexist camp.
Even moreso in this instance. Anyone thinking they can claim "left leaning" as they vote for Gary Johnson needs their ass handed to them. They are flat out sexist, whether they are trolling or simply deceiving themselves.
posted by prowlerzee : 2:29 AM
Trump: "The computer aspect of cyber is very very tough". He has no clue of what he is talking about.
And to Clinton: "(Y)ou've been fighting ISIS your entire adult life." ISIS was founded in 1999.
She bested him. But we aren't even into October yet.
posted by b : 5:17 AM
b: I agree. But consider: Her popularity shot up after the Dem convention. I suspect that her popularity will rise after this debate.
Perhaps we are seeing the same pattern we saw during the Bill Clinton years: Bill would become a hated figure when he allowed his enemies (and the media) to paint a dark picture of "Bill Clinton, the conspiratorial fiend hired by the Illuminati to destroy America." But whenever Bill got a chance to address the nation directly -- during a SOTU address, at the Oklahoma City memorial, even the broadcast of his Grand Jury testimony -- he would mend his image.
By the way, I did not see the doctor, although I am feeling somewhat lightheaded. I've been watching a lot of old Randolph Scott movies while feeling -- well, a bit high. It's the only way to fly!
One of these days, when we don't have to worry about The Donald anymore, I'll devote a Sunday post to the "Ranown" films. Great stuff.
Maybe my asking this question will allow people to call me a conspiracy buff, but...
...but I'm gonna ask anyways. But before I do, we need some background...
What powers the Trump campaign is the idea that the country is riding a freight train to Hell. Trump, running a play similar to Nixon's in '68, wants people to think that the nation has never known such a fearsome wave of crime and terror and unrest.
Unfortunately, psychology overpowers statistics. If people feel endangered, if headlines and cable news keep blaring the message that "Chaos rules!" then the self-proclaimed apostle of Order has a better chance of attaining office.
So my question is a simple one: As we head into the final stretch of this campaign, don't you find it rather conveeeeenient that this shit suddenly seems to be happening every other day? (Added note: And now we have this shit, right here in my adopted home town.) (Added added note: On the same day, the same hour, we have this shit. Good Lord!)
A related question: Have you noticed that none of the current mass shooters are right-wing nutjobs? At one time, the list of kill-crazy creeps included guys like Wade Michael Page, Robert Dear, Jared Loughner, Jim Adkisson, Byron Wilson, Jerry and Joe Kane, Andrew Stack, Frazier Miller and Tim McVeigh. Arguably, we should include Adam Lanza, a non-political wacko raised by a conservative gun nut.
All of those guys are keeping suspiciously quiet.
Meanwhile, every unhappy young shlub with a foreign-sounding last name has decided that now is the time to make a statement. Something tells me that ever-so-scary non-Christians and non-caucasians will be reaching for Glocks and pipe bombs on a near-daily basis -- right up until the time Trump puts his tiny little paw on a Bible and takes the oath.
You know damned well that, if the shoe were on the other foot, Alex Jones would be screaming "False flag! MKULTRA! Crisis actors! False flag!"
On a related note: I will leave it to others will debate the justifiability of the police shooting Keith Lamont Scott. There are no easy answers here: Apparently, Scott did have a gun -- and wore it legally, North Carolina being an "open carry" state. My question goes to a different issue: Why was a man with undeniable mental health issues -- a man who had suffered a traumatic brain injury -- allowed to own a firearm? Doesn't this episode demonstrate the value of moderate gun control legislation? Doesn't it make sense to keep guns away from those with serious psychological troubles? Why do demagogues always insist that limited regulations will inevitably lead to the eradication of the Second Amendment?
The answer to one of your questions is that the right wing nut jobs have their champion on TV everyday saying and doing what they want to say and do. There is no need for them to use their guns now. If Trump loses, they will be out there in droves. Same analogy applies to blacks and people with foreign sounding names.They feel under attack, marginalized and are worried about their future. It makes sense to imagine that some are cracking under the pressure. M
posted by Anonymous : 10:53 AM
The US is like a tinderbox where it's very easy to imagine some shit happening - even just one event - that could blast Trump into the White House not by handing him Pennsylvania as well as Ohio and Florida, but by a fucking landslide.
We don't have to hypothesise another 911. Try a Nice promenade. Or - an incident with only a single death - consider the gruesome murder of the 85-year-old priest Jacques Hamel in Normandy in July this year. Is it so difficult for those who wish to ensure a Trump victory to find a couple of guys like the Tsarnaev brothers and send them not to a street race carrying a bomb, but to a church carrying a knife? (And a smartphone.)
At the same time, as I keep saying, there could be a military confrontation between the US and Russia. Not necessarily big, for the time being: a downed plane or a sunk ship, maybe, some movements of military forces, and some fierce words. (Only start the nukes flying after the inauguration, right?)
I can't envisage a shock occurring that will help Clinton, not even if Trump is exposed as having checked into a mental institution a few decades ago for depression. So what? Everyone who's capable of considering the issue already knows that Trump suffers from big-time mental problems. And the mental hospital story is probably false anyway.
Few or no mainstream commentators understand that Trump will kick Clinton's arse in the first TV debate. Have any of them even written about that as a possibility? Let them go and watch Trump at the wrestling and maybe they will realise this isn't about debating points or arguments in support of viable policies.
posted by b : 3:59 PM
email/server email/server email/server
posted by gerry : 5:28 PM
I suspect the spate of mass shooters by immigrant/foreign-ish young men is due to each one being inspired by the earlier ones. You see it with suicides so often there's the term "suicide contagion" to describe it. With suicides, if a middle-aged guy with financial troubles shoots himself, you see an uptick in suicides generally, but you especially see other middle-aged guys with financial problems shoot themselves. If it's a young woman who hangs herself when her boyfriend dumps her, you see more young, dumped women hang themselves. The first suicide in a set is like permission to other similar people in similar circumstances to off themselves in the same way. With mass shooters, once another right-wing nutjob shoots up a mall, we'll probably see another spate of that sort of shooter do the same. Something to look forward to.
posted by Karen : 7:30 PM
Scott's gun was not legal. He was also a felon and drug user. That made his gun illegal.
Coded messages in "A Clockwork Orange": Was Anthony Burgess "spooked up"?
Would it kill us to talk about something other than Donald Trump? No, it would not.
For a while now, I've suspected that Anthony Burgess, author of A Clockwork Orange and a zillion other things, dabbled in work for Her Majesty's Secret Service. For one thing, his extraordinary talent for languages would have made him irresistibly attractive to recruiters. Burgess based Clockwork's Nadsat on Russian, a language he learned just prior to his bizarre trip to the Soviet Union, made during the height of the Cold War. (After foolishly trying to out-drink some ordinary Russians, he said: "What is there to do with such people but love them?")
Burgess is believed by some, though it is conjectural, to have engaged in low-level espionage during his Gibraltar, Malaya and Brunei years and possibly later. See, for example, the London Mail on Sunday, “The greatest story Anthony Burgess never told: his life as a secret agent” and other media articles in this not very authoritative but intriguing vein. It is speculated that he may have provided his superiors (the Colonial Office and perhaps the Kuala Lumpur-based British intelligence authorities, and later MI6) with information about any communist actions or sympathies, however trivial, among his colleagues and students and, after his return from the East, among the people he met and associated with. Since lives were at stake during the Malayan Emergency, this would not have been unusual or exceptionable–it might well have been regarded as irresponsible to refrain from assisting in this way. The term used for an operative of this type and pay-grade was “ground observer”, and he would have been providing his information to MI6′s East Asian operation through Singapore. The biographer Roger Lewis claimed that while at the Malayan Teachers’ Training College in Kota Bharu, Burgess “was part of a secret plan, in 1955, for the chief ministers of Malaya and Singapore to meet the leader of the outlawed Malayan Communist Party in a jungle clearing”.
In 2002, a writer named Roger Lewis produced a Burgess biography (unread by me) which contains this passage:
“You realize,” said the spook, as we sat on a bench in Berkeley Square, opposite Maggs Bros. Ltd, by appointment to Her Majesty the Queen, purveyors of rare books and manuscripts, “that the capitalised lines on page twenty-nine of A Clockwork Orange give the HQ location of the psychotronic warfare technology?”
Here's the capitalized bit: ‘SOUTH 4; METRO COR-SKOL BLUE DIVISION; THE BOYS OF ALPHA.’ In context, it seems senseless. Lewis argues that these words offer coded directions to Fort Bliss, Texas. (You'll have to read the above-linked article for the details.) The word "bliss" appears six times on page 29 of ACO.
Writing in Lobster, Garrick Adler discusses this business and offers reason to doubt Lewis' claim. Clockwork is about a behavioral modification program gone awry, but the literature on psy-war and behavioral modification never mentions Fort Bliss. Of course, the literature available to the public is incomplete. I have been privately informed of programs at two Air Force bases, one in Texas, the other in California; these programs which have not, to my knowledge, been discussed in public.
It has been argued that Burgess would have made a poor spy: His wife, who accompanied him on the Russian jaunt, was an emotionally unstable alcoholic, and Burgess himself enjoyed rather more than the occasional sip. Nevertheless, Adler draws our attention to an episode during the USSR trip in which Burgess seems to have gone out of his way to provoke the attention of a KGB agent. In other words, the writer acted as a "dangle."
I would add this: The purpose of the dangle may have been to further a molehunt. Once the KGB became curious about this strange visitor, they would have asked their agents-in-place within the British establishment to be on the lookout for any scuttlebutt -- or, better still, documentation -- regarding Anthony Burgess. Anyone in the UK government who suddenly went out of his way to learn about Anthony Burgess would be identifying himself as a Soviet spy. That's a classic trick.
(And now you know the real reason why Lee Harvey Oswald went to the USSR. You may want to Google the name "Otto Otepka.")
Anthony Burgess' trip to the USSR was subsidized by his publisher, with the expectation that a novel would result. A book did result, under the title Honey For the Bears. At the time, Burgess was not very well-known -- Clockwork had not yet appeared -- and it is difficult to comprehend why the publisher felt that the investment was justified.
There's much more; I suggest that you hit the link and check out Adler's piece. A good read. We all need something non-Trumpy to think about right now, do we not?
I was among those who felt certain that Christie endorsed Trump in exchange for the vice-presidency. Now it seems more likely that Christie was promised a pardon -- or at least some sort of job after he gets hounded out of office in New Jersey. Or maybe Trump just likes being photographed next to someone even chubbier than he is.
"There were no deals," he said. "We had been engaged in conversations. You know it's been a decision as I said I've been thinking about and praying about for weeks and months...
There is something almost Shakespearean here. (I'm thinking of the "War of the Roses" plays.) What Trump did to Cruz' family went beyond forgiveness, yet forgiveness has come -- prodded, no doubt, by political calculation, not Christian charity. Someone or something must have convinced Cruz that Trump will win. The World's Most Lovable Senator is up for re-election in 2018 and, according to report, a surprising number of Republican heavy-hitters covet his job, including Rick Perry, Josh Romney (Mitt's son) and George P. Bush. And so Cruz grovels, though probably for naught: I think that President Trump will screw Cruz over no matter how deeply the Persecuted One genuflects.
“For trust not him that hath once broken faith.”
“Why, I can smile and murder whiles I smile,
And cry 'content' to that which grieves my heart,
And wet my cheeks with artificial tears,
And frame my face for all occasions”
Only 22 percent of Trump supporters believe he will start a nuclear war.
"Only"? How the hell can anyone use the word "only" in that sentence? Twenty-two percent of Trump supporters is a lot of people -- millions of people. Millions of people would literally prefer nuclear war to a Clinton presidency.
Why? Because emails. Because..."optics."
Also, she's a woman. And the current Democratic president is black.
Added note: Reader, what are you going to be doing during the debate? Personally, I can't watch -- and I cannot allow myself to be anywhere near a teevee, computer or radio. Sorry to wuss out, but I already have a heart condition and the doc told me to minimize stress. My provisional plan is to head down Fletchertown road in search of Goatman, who cannot possibly be as scary as Donald Trump.
Added added note: Did you know that "Donald Trump" is an anagram for "Mr. Odd Nut Pal"?
I'm a Clinton volunteer on LI and was invited to a debate watching event. We'll meet at the venue, take a chartered bus to Hofstra where we have a permit to gather with pro-Hillary signs. We'll be bused back to the venue to watch the debate together.
I teach at a school in Hempstead where Hofstra is located. Our school is closing an hour early due to anticipated street closures and traffic problems. Wanna make a kid happy on a Friday afternoon? Announce that school is closing early on Monday!
posted by Anonymous : 11:01 AM
I will be watching the debate inside my fallout shelter, sealed with duck tape and cover as Governor Ridge suggested, and sitting in my bathtub's solution of mosquito repellent.
President Merkin Muffley's protestations notwithstanding, no U.S. President since 1945 has ever prohibited the nuclear option. The present and destined-to-continue nuclear terror fearmongering pales alongside the Reagan cowboy rough-rider administration's first-term contention that the U.S. could win and survive a nuclear exchange. Whether such rhetoric was intended to fund the so-called Star Wars defense shield, to bankrupt the Soviet Union with an escalated arms race, or to initiate nuclear arms reduction is now irrelevant but not entirely forgotten. Reagan professed his belief in the biblical Armageddon; he was not a candidate but the sitting President.
Reagan's 1984 victory was nearly unanimous in the Electoral College.
posted by Amelie D'bunquerre : 12:26 PM
Amalie, You made me laugh first and then reminded me of how much of this current shit with the Republicans started with Reagan. God, how I hate stupidity! And cowardice. Armageddon is just a coward's way of saying, I can't manage and I want a re-set. How in the hell they imagine a better life after a re-set while remaining exactly the same is beyond me. M
For a while now, I've bemoaned the conventional thinking that Hillary can win this one through teevee ads and ground game. That approach is SO last century. Now, it's all about social media, Reddit, Facebook, troll armies, meme control. Most of all, it's about "shitposting," the new word for smears.
Even Republicans have decried Trump's refusal to run a traditional campaign. Why should he bother? The important thing is controlling the online narrative. We all love to bitch about the way mainstream media has covered the candidates, but the mainstream media no longer matters -- not the way it once did. Moreover, the websites we normally consider part of the alternative media have become nearly irrelevant. These venues count only when links to planted stories legitimize the shitposts on social media.
Welcome to TrollWorld.
The evil genius behind it all is Palmer Luckey, who founded Oculus and sold it for $700,000,000. He's a homeschooled, utterly arrogant 24 year-old POS -- a tech industry libertarian who probably read the Gospel According to St. Ayn at some point and now thinks he knows everything.
And the creature through whom he works is the mondo-bizarro white supremacist and high-tech hatemonger Milo Yiannopoulos, lieutenant to Steve Bannon. Milo is the Ernst Roehm of cyber psy-war. Here's a quote from Milo that I've published before and will probably publish again and again:
“We live in a post-fact era. It’s wonderful,” he says, pointing to various web pages on his giant computer screen that show photos of, supposedly, Bill Clinton’s grown black son. “The Washington Post gives a truth check, and no one cares...."
And that's why we are where we are. Social media has drowned the nation in a sea of post-facts.
That's how Hillary's team lost. Generals always prepare to fight the previous war. Hillary's Generals geared up to fight a pre-Facebook, pre-Reddit battle. On the other hand: I don't know how you fight a vile creature like Milo without turning into Milo. Maybe Axelrod could have done it.
Palmer Luckey is a sick fuck and a real life villain, who funnily enough, hates wearing shoes and socks. Anyway, please correct your post. He sold Oculus VR LLC. for $2,000,000,000 to Facebook, it is estimated that his share of the loot is $700,000,000. A hell of a lot more than the $700,000 you have listed.
Wikipedia, citing Forbes, says "Oculus VR was acquired by Facebook in March 2014 for US$2 billion, and although his share is not public, Forbes magazine estimated the founder's net worth to be $700 million in 2015."
Palmer Luckey make me want to vomit. Luckey, Trump, Bannon, Stone and Yiannopoulos are some of the most vile human beings to ever walk upon this Earth. They are a blight upon the universe, and no, I'm not whistling Dixie. They are sick fucks we should all, collectively, be fighting to take down and marginalized out of existence. Instead, they are profiteers, gaining in power and influence.
posted by JSL : 8:07 AM
you forgot to mention that Trump is the ultimate 'new media' candidate. He has an 'uneering' ability to control the news cycle.
He is unafraid to take chances with'bad publicity' which freezes the normal politician.
If your afraid to manufacture bad press than you have no chance to control the media.
However my prediction is that unless there is another 'candidate' like Trump we will go back to the same old stuff once he's out of the picture.
posted by gerry : 8:39 AM
Should've paid more attention to Beavis and Butthead, our future leaders.
posted by prowlerzee : 9:19 AM
JSL, leaving out a few zeroes was pure accident. I've corrected my post. Thanks.
Joseph, this is an urgent matter that needs your attention. I'm trying to raise this issue in more places than the blogosphere. This needs the widest possible scrutiny and attention to it. Every adult American needs to be made aware of this, yet the media is completely ignoring it.
Please, please, please take a look at these links:
NeoGAF has a thread titled 'Oculus' Palmer Luckey funds white supremacy group' here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1283045
"Luckey still works at Facebook, the social network confirmed to The Verge." here: http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/23/13025422/palmer-luckey-oculus-founder-funding-donald-trump-trolls
One of Luckey's anti-Hillary posts was screencapped here: http://i.imgur.com/hIWNuDW.png
If we don't stop Luckey, Bannon, Trump, Stone, Jones (that is, Alex Jones), and Yiannopoulos, then America will fall into fascism. We must rise to the challenge and stop these monsters. We have to stop them or we our fucked and so are our children and their children for who knows how many generations. Please, America, WAKE UP!
posted by JSL : 9:42 AM
JSL, I don't know who you are, but I like you.
Write a post. I'll publish it. I'll do anything I can to publicize it.
OTE, I will positively relish being laughed at by you. It will be the most welcome bit of ridicule any human being ever experienced.
IF it happens.
I don't think it will.
But think about it: If mainstream media is IT, then why are so many people so passionate about Trump, and why do so many believe total nonsense about Hillary? Propaganda is working in new ways -- ways that are so insidious that many people don't even comprehend what is happening.
Joseph, have you ever seen the Dead Zone? Or have you read the King novel upon which the film is based? The reason I ask this is because a dawning realization came over me today. I know who Donald Trump is. Donald Trump is Greg Stillson. Trump is presently muscling his way into power, he and his cohorts convincing everyone that feminism and 'immigrant huggers' are to blame for all the world's woes. If only meddlesome females had never attained suffrage nearly 100 years ago, we could have the Roaring 1920ies back.
Did you see Trump's speech in Detroit? Your attack of him doesn't go far enough. He didn't just say he would end the EPA, he said he would use executive fiat to declare a moratorium on ALL regulations. ALL REGULATIONS. He wants to end all economic regulations and bring about Ayn Rand's City on the Hill.
If Americans shrug now, and Trump (and Trumpism) is not held accountable, we'll soon find out the true meaning of Atlas Shrugged. The world will come tumbling down because of our error.
posted by JSL : 2:10 PM
Polygon is applying pressure on Facebook to investigate. There are people calling for Facebook to not only distance itself from Luckey, but to banish him to the Phantom Zone. And yes, I'm one of those people, absolutely.
I don't and won't laugh at you, Joseph, but OTEA's argument makes sense to me.
After all, despite all the propaganda, Clinton is still ahead--not as far ahead as I would find comfortable, but ahead.
I suspect the Internet community contains a disproportionately high number of right-wing Orcs, so if one focuses primarily on the Internet community, one will get a skewed picture of the general public.
I just can't accept the idea that the fate of our country, and perhaps our species, could rest in the hairy-palmed hands of a cloven-hooved horde of nasty white punks, lifelong mediocrities who will never ejaculate inside a vagina without committing solicitation of a prostitute, or else rape of one or another degree. Those filthy little snots are NOT the majority of the American public.
Aw, I forgot to mention that I think the Internet is disproportionately well-supplied with passionate Trump Chumps who believe the 25 Years Of Smears against the Clintons--and so it might seem, to someone who concentrates on Da Intertoobz, that Trump has the advantage.
Steve Bannon is Donald Trump's recently appointed electoral campaign CEO. Bannon was called out by The Guardian for providing a voter registration to an empty house in Miami. He has now re-registered to a beach house in Sarasota, Fla, and,as anyone who follows MadCowProd can tell you, that spells dodgy ties to spies, drug traffickers and con artists.
The new house is owned by Andrew M. Badolato one of Bannon's former business associates. Hopsicker takes it from there. One of Bandolato's business partners was Jonathan Curshen -- currently serving 17 years in federal prison for stock fraud. Curshen's juicy claim to fame was in helping to buy a DC-9 airliner busted in Mexico in 2006 while carrying 5.5 tons of cocaine. It's typical Hopsicker and riotously colorful.
I mean, really. Never have the grifters and the criminals been so openly linked to high office.
On a more sober note the latest edition of Newsweek says Donald Trump's overseas financial ties are a monumental conflict of interest and threaten national security.
posted by fred : 6:37 PM
OTE, what Joseph said to you. Yes, younger folk are less likely to vote. That's terrible news since the MSM have been propping Trump up 24/7 so as to dampen the vote. The fact that Ivory Bill "may the Big Imaginary Pecker in the sky bless you misguided fools but I must leave you....oh wait, no one begged me to stay but I'll just stay anyway" Woodpecker agrees with you is not a positive sign.
Yes, it would be a joyous occasion for you to be right. Alas.
posted by prowlerzee : 11:00 PM
@OTE Admin - "Most voters are not users of social media".
I think you're mistaken about that. According to Statista.com, 78% of "US Americans" (i.e. presumably, people of any age who live in the US) "have a social media profile" in 2016. According to this site, citing research by Pew, in 2015 the proportion of senior citizens in the US who used social media was 35%.
In any case, social media is just part of the mass social war on the mind that probably would have bewildered even Wilhelm Reich. TV remains important - and not just the wrestling - otherwise we wouldn't be talking about Monday's debate.
I am encountering people on an all-purpose chat site I go to who are openly looking forward to fascism in the US. They want places like Charlotte to be sealed off and the population "allowed" to starve, as white men with powerful guns go "whoop whoop whoop" and the "weak" go to the wall. Friends in the US are telling me that their fathers and other family members are expressing the kind of fascist views that previously they were either coy or half-hearted about, or which may have joked about once every blue moon but didn't hold to in discussions or when they had to follow things through mentally even just a little bit. Now they feel liberated. They're not in the mood for discussion. They just want to kill the enemy and achieve a fascist society. And their sense of something rising is focused on electing Trump. Fascism stalks the US.
A military confrontation between the US and Russia is possible before the election. If it starts, and Trump calls for letting loose nuclear weapons, Clinton is unlikely to get anywhere by saying "But...Manafort! Ukraine! You praised Putin!"
Even if Trump loses, which is unlikely, a fascist "revolution" is likely.
posted by b : 3:34 AM
Whoa, I thought a disproportionately high number of Trump Chumps were antique flatulences?
How are they going to stage a fascist revolution?
It's hard to goose-step on a Hoveround, and it's hard to shoot straight through cataracts. ;)
Are people crying because Trump has beat the Left at their own game of manipulating minds through media that bypass the Left side of the brain? Trump is against certain people within ethnic groups, sexual orientations, etc. Meanwhile, Obama and Hillary are welcoming in the real fascists that have been abusing women and shooting up gays in their investor's lands, in Europe and here, in America. Trump is working to stop all these subgroups from dividing America amongst themselves. He is the liberal voters' best friend and they are too brain-washed to see it!
It's interesting that gay people are "f-gs" and blacks are, you can pick the slur" if they are not brain-washed by the Left. Hillary failed the gays and blacks and Trump is calling them out on it. You like it when churches fail their people, well wake up. Your favorite candidates have failed theirs. It's not so funny, anymore, when your favorite candidate's alleged base leaves them having awakened to the fact that those groups were mere pawns in their power struggle (the real struggle of socialist leaders)
Psieve2, Let's accept the first part of your argument for argument's sake. Why would the awakened, enlightened, newly free from the bounds of psychological manipulation rush into the arms of a racist, fascist, egotistical, out of touch with reality lier and manipulator con artist? FyI This is not a site where this kind of obvious trolling results in massive conversion to Trump mania. If you were not new to this site, you may have noticed that readers of this site are much tougher nuts to crack than what you are capable of. Now, kindly move on and don't embarrass yourself. M
The vast majority of voters -- of Republicans -- favor net neutrality.
Donald Trump wants rid of the EPA, which he calls the "Department of Environmental."
Taken literally, Trump’s proposal to abolish EPA is a recipe for dirty air and legal chaos. EPA doesn’t just invent its regulations out of thin air. It is the agency charged with implementing laws such as the Clean Air Act and Clean Water Act, which have been passed by Congress. It studies pollutants that are harmful to human health, writes rules to curb those pollutants, and monitors compliance. If Congress abolished EPA but did not repeal the laws that require the federal government to limit pollution, the result would be total incoherence. The government would have legal obligations it could not meet.
Most voters view the EPA favorably. I think that the Flint episode has reminded us all of the need for regulation.
Donald Trump wants to abolish the Food and Drug Administration. The majority of Republicans who expressed an opinion in this poll favor keeping it. In other polls, Americans strongly believe that the FDA should regulate things like e-cigarettes. If voters were reminded of how things were in the days before meat inspection, I suspect that FDA would have nearly unanimous favorability. (In today's fractured society, nothing is 100% popular.)
Trump's policies, if enacted, would result in a $5.3 trillion deficit. He's running against the wife of the only President to balance the budget. The majority of voters consider deficit reduction extremely important. The vast majority favor increasing taxes on those with very high incomes. Trump will cut taxes for the wealthy.
We've all heard about Trump's racism, his draconian approach to immigration, his arrogance and his overall ignorance. Isn't it about time we mention other things as well?
This wouldn't work. This would require thinking. The most the average Trump voter can manage is "Trump's a successful businessman." Mention the number of bankruptcies and the hidden tax records. Even that won't change anyone's vote but at least they have no comebacks.
Those are actual issues, not the sort of thing news infotainment outlets "focus" on.
Hillary needs to "disrupt" the news channels, use other routes to address the public, as you suggested before.
posted by prowlerzee : 11:16 AM
Trump supporters are doofusses who don't give a damn about facts and policy. You need to be concerned about this other guy, who is stealing votes from HRC. https://thinkprogress.org/the-myth-of-gary-johnson-8f39a5688fe6#.mx9i0xpbj
It's all the clintons fault. They never learned to defend themselves after all those years of attacks. Look at the Clinton's foundation debacle. they let the word OPTICS go around for weeks. Why didn't get off their assas and show the real optics: 11.5 millions of people surviving because of the foundation(aids) rebuilding the entire health system in Rwanda , medicine for Malaria ,education.... Why waiting for Canson's book to come out, who reads books anymore. For 25 years I was never impressed by their ability to defend themselves. My God how many times I was physically ill from frustration. Those Clintons will be the death of me.
posted by Anonymous : 12:31 PM
I'm not voting for trump but the fda and epa have taken over by the industries they oversee. We the people no longer matter just greed.
Anon, I gotta admit -- you DO have a point. Bill gets on TV to talk about his Foundation, but it's kind of a soft sell. He never says "TRUMP LIES!" or "That goddamned movie 'CLinton Cash' is filled with LIES!" or "No other former president has saves as many lives as I have!"
He lets the facts quietly speak for themselves.
That's the right approach when speaking to educated people who work in offices. They can put two and two together. But the people who work behind the counter at the local fast food emporium NEED the Trumpian hard sell. They NEED to hear you say "ME SO GREAT THEM SO EVIL."
I'm not sure the issues matter at this point either. Personally my hope is that during the first debate, Hillary can successfully troll trump (albeit with truth!) in such a way that he just completely loses his shit and embarrasses himself. Given how thin-skinned he is, can't seem to resist reacting to the smallest insult, hopefully her trainers are giving her lessons on his transparently obvious personality type and how to egg him into a total meltdown live on TV. I can't help but think a skilled debater - not in terms of issues, but in how to manipulate personalities - could play him like a fiddle.
posted by Hoarseface : 7:16 PM
You were right. There IS a dirty-tricks conspiracy targeting Hillary. But it's not Roger Stone behind it, it's these guys:
A friend just now emailed me and said that, in the wake of the recent unrest in North Carolina, the news is now spinning Donald Trump as more sympathetic to black people than is Hillary Clinton. My friend wanted to know if I've been seeing similar spin on other news coverage.
Well...yeah. It was heading in that direction on CNN. Chris Matthews gave a fair amount of air time yesterday to a black Trumper who repeated the argument that we might as well try Trump because Obama and Bill Clinton were just hell, hell, HELL on the black community.
Are you seeing that kind of spin on the news? If so...wow. One would have thought that Trump would have lost the black vote entirely after he hired as Steve Bannon to be the new campaign head honcho. Bannon is the guy many are calling a leader of the Alt-Right movement -- the new name for white supremacy. Trump has heretofore championed profiling, "stop and frisk" and giving the cops total license to do as they please.
And yet there really do seem to be a small but significant number of black people who think that Hillary is the problem, even though her very first speech of the campaign was a condemnation of the way many cops have behaved toward black citizens. Is Clinton Derangement Syndrome really that powerful? The Clintons have become a Rorschach blot onto which many members of the public project all of their fears and resentments.
Any black people gravitating toward Trump should first consult the folks -- both black and white -- who live in Flint, Michigan. Ask them how they feel about Trump's grand scheme to get rid of the EPA. Perhaps anti-Hillary black voters should also ask themselves about the advisability of Trump's plan to get rid of the Food And Drug Administration -- the "food police," as Trump calls them. Rich people can afford to shop at Whole Foods and other upscale markets; poor people are the ones who are going to get sick from tainted meat and produce.
I must admit that Trump's new ploy makes electoral sense: North Carolina is a tossup, and now there are even rumblings that Virginia may be in play.
Perhaps no battleground state is as polarized along demographic lines as North Carolina. Mr. Trump has a lead of 53 percent to 28 percent among white voters, most likely his best tally with that group in any of the battleground states. Mrs. Clinton holds the overwhelming support of black voters, at 86 percent to 3 percent in a three-way race.
Peeling off even a tiny, tiny fraction of the African American vote -- or depressing that vote -- could assure that the state goes into Trump's column. Hillary absolutely cannot afford to lose it. Permalink
I did not think of this. it's gone from annoying to serious alarm. Not only are they spinning Donald as being more sympathetic to the man shot with his hands up, while Hillary is more "cautious" but they are also not emphasizing that she called the event appalling and unacceptable. This they do to suppress the turnout, as you note.
I heard Obama's recent speech on the radio and saw it online, but did the TV news organizations put his call to black voters on repeat? That he would take it as a "personal insult" if his community did not turn out for Hillary? That the best send off they could give him was to go vote? Hopefully, Obama himself will be out there repeating it, because he was on fire!
posted by prowlerzee : 12:05 PM
I saw the opposite spin. I thought I just saw a story where the Donald suggested implementing stop and frisk nationally.
Of course that's not quite what you asked but it was what I saw.
Jesus what an election!
posted by Anonymous : 1:57 PM
I don't think this will work: people in the black and hispanic communities know a hater when they see one, and it's perfectly obvious that Trump, and his father, have been racists all their lives. Along with his two sons.
What it does show is that the media barons that run CNN and MSNBC are great pals with Rupert Murdoch, and would be perfectly OK with fascist con-man running the country. As in 1932 in a certain central European country, the billionaire class have convinced themselves they can control the crazy man with the funny hair.
posted by ColoradoGuy : 4:48 PM
"As in 1932 in a certain central European country, the billionaire class have convinced themselves they can control the crazy man with the funny hair." Great line, Colorado Guy
First: I'll probably have some thoughts about the unrest in North Carolina before the day is out. It's a horrific situation -- protest is certainly valid, but violence will only serve to elect Trump. And yet: What right do I have to tell anyone "Be calm"...?
So let's talk Trump. Drew Magary, writing in GQ, says everything we've all been dying to say. Decades from now, this piece will be quoted as the warning to the nation as it plunges into the abyss.
Earlier this week, the Washington Post’s David Fahrenthold uncovered yet another Donald Trump scam job, in which he used over $250,000 in charitable donations to help pay off his legal bills. And, because this is Trump, that sordid (and almost certainly illegal) bit of money laundering is just ONE despicable detail of the story. There are many more, including Trump’s club trying to welch on a $1 million hole-in-one payout (out of all of Trump’s bad qualities, his steadfast refusal to pay people what he owes them, while bragging about it, is the most enraging), along with the old bit about Trump blithely ignoring local ordinances so he could put a big, dipshit flagpole up at the Mar-A-Lago club, with his lawyers stating—with a straight face—that a smaller flag “would fail to appropriately express the magnitude of Donald J. Trump’s . . . patriotism” (NOTE: Until recently, Trump didn’t know what the stripes on the flag symbolized).
None of this is surprising, of course. Trump is a liar and a crook, and he commits abominable acts at such a frenetic pace that they get lost in the fury surrounding whatever horrible thing he does next. Keith Olbermann needed over 17 minutes on this site just to list a fraction of the atrocities Trump has staged during election season, and he’s gonna need 17 more minutes to cover what happens between now and Election Day. Remember when Trump said he would get rid of food regulations? That was Thursday.
Regardless, in the end, people are still gonna vote for this man. Maybe not enough to get him elected, but still: it’ll be in the tens of millions. (Note to the people causing the polls to fluctuate: What the fuck is wrong with you? I gotta meet the five percent of people who saw Hillary come down with pneumonia and were like, “Forget her, gimme the dictator with dryer lint hair.”) Nothing that Trump says, no damning piece of Trump reportage, and certainly no opinion piece like this one will stop his voters from pulling the lever. Nor will anything stop Trump from being the officious, braindead goon that he is. He will never answer for his crimes, and there’s a frighteningly large portion of the electorate that will always love him for that.
And so I’d just like to say to that portion of the electorate: Fuck you. No, seriously. Go fuck yourselves. I’m not gonna waste any more time trying to convince you that you’re about to do something you’ll regret forever. I’m not gonna show you old clips of Trump saying rotten things. I’m not gonna try to ANNIHILATE Trump by showing you records of his hypocrisy and greed. I’m not gonna link to a John Oliver clip and be like, “THIS. So much this.” Nothing’s gonna take down Trump at this point, so I’m not gonna bother. No no, this post is for ME. I am preaching to the sad little choir in my soul here.
Because while Trump is a miserable bastard, YOU are the people who have handed him the bullhorn. YOU are the people willing to embarrass this nation and put it on the brink of economic ruin all because you wanna throw an electoral hissy fit. YOU are the people who want to revolutionize the way America does business by voting for its worst businessman, a disgusting neon pig who only makes money when he causes problems for other people instead of solving them. YOU are the thin-skinned yokels who clutch your bandoliers whenever someone hurls the mildest of slurs at you (“deplorables”), while cheering Trump on as he leaves a bonfire of truly hateful invective everywhere he goes. YOU are the people willing to overlook the fact that Trump is an unqualified, ignorant sociopath because DURRRR HILLARY IS BAD TOO DURRRR.
The old saw is that people get the politicians they deserve, and I’ll be crestfallen if Trump wins and proves this to be true once more. If you vote for him, you’re not making America great again. You are killing it. You are telling the world that America isn’t worth it. You are telling the world that all of our big talk about freedom and unity and ideals is just a load of shit, and that you would prefer a smoldering dystopia where freedom is just a flimsy cover for evildoing, led by a man who believes that strength is measured only in killing people. You are handing the most important job on Earth to Napoleon from Animal Farm. And you are revealing your breathtaking ignorance to everyone except for yourself. I can’t believe you can’t see this. I want you to see this. I wanna shine a big fucking light in your face and scream at you that Trump isn’t even qualified to be human, much less President. How are you gonna change the system if you elect some corrupt idiot who has no clue how to DO IT, huh? Can’t you see this? Haven’t you heard this asshole talk? THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?
Daily Kos linked to this article. The comments touched on the key role played by conspiracy theory in this election...
I enjoyed reading it but somehow I kept thinking… really? There is really nothing that can “happen” to change Trump supporters mind? How about we delve into sci-fi or Utopian scenarios? What if someone where to find a video (it has to be a video because his supporters do not read) of a Trump conversation with Putin, Trump laughing about the idiocy of his supporters and laughing that ISIS is good for his business and asking Putin how to be a good dictator and if he can have access to Miss Russia for a night?
Interesting question. Response:
They’ll say it’s been doctored or that it’s a Trump body double or something equally insane. Seriously — when I showed my Trump supporting animal loving mother the pictures of the creepster Trump boys with their slaughtered safari animals she got angry at ME instead of them and insisted that those pics were fakes made by left wing propagandists. Yes, this really happened.
I believe it. When I posted the video of the interview with the architect that Trump hired and refused to pay, my Trump-supporting aunt insisted that the interview was “Photoshopped”. Which, I guess, shows she knows as much about Photoshop as she does about politics.
Conspiracism has become the new opiate of the masses. It is the mechanism by which the people eradicate the reality that is and replace it with the reality they want. I urge you to read this profile of Steve Bannon's lieutenant, Milo Yiannopoulos:
“We live in a post-fact era. It’s wonderful,” he says, pointing to various web pages on his giant computer screen that show photos of, supposedly, Bill Clinton’s grown black son. “The Washington Post gives a truth check, and no one cares...."
I'm still trying to finish an assignment, so I can't do much writing today. Let's look at some amazing videos.
Of course, Keith isn't really in a position to talk. But let's not bring up 2008.
For a while now, I've been formulating a post in my mind which would expand on this theme. I don't think that Trumpism was created by racism, although racism obviously plays a huge role. I think that this movement is the inevitable result of the conspiracist mindset.
As was Nazism.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Yes, there are real conspiracies -- and they are perpetrated by conspiracy theorists. The Nazis proved the point. So did the John Birchers. So did and do any number of right-wing spooks, all over the globe. (I'm not talking only about the ones employed by American services.)
And now, the Trumpers.
Consider Roger Stone, Trump's eminence grise, whose resume lists one conspiracy after another; he's proud of all the conspiratorial dirty tricks he has perpetrated. And yet he's a welcome guest on the Alex Jones paranoia symposium. What more evidence do you need? The conspiracy theorists ARE the conspirators.
About Trump's anti-ISIS plan: I can't understand why this point has not been made heretofore. The military already has a plan of attack against ISIS. Many plans. That's what they do in the Pentagon and in the Army War College: They come up with plans. There is a plan of attack directed against every nation on earth, from lowly Andorra to Russia and China. I'm sure that there are contingency plans in case of attack from space. These guys make plans the way bakers make bread.
The problem is not the lack of a plan; the problem is political. We can conquer nearly any nation on earth, but what happens the day after? How do we prevent conquest from becoming quagmire? This is precisely the question which Dubya did not adequately consider when he decided to go into Iraq.
I came across a phrase today which perfectly sums up Donald Trump: Ignorant snot. That's it. Those two words encompass his entire being. And his vile quasi-Nazi son deserves the title of Ignorant Snotling.
Of course, it is possible to produce a bowl of Skittles entirely free of toxins. The Mars company does it every day.
Financial Terrorism exists, Trump supporters know it and Trump is allegedly against it. Bernie Sanders was the other guy against Financial Terrorism. As a result our two main candidates are slogging through while millennials dream of seeing either Stein or Johnson's popularity continue to rise.
I spent much of yesterday "provisionally persuaded" that the NY-NJ bombing case was less interesting than it at first appeared. Ahmad Khan Rahami was a young employee of his family's fried chicken restaurant. He became miffed by his neighbors, who complained that the joint stayed open longer than permitted by ordnance. Anti-Muslim comments from one neighbor (a likely Trump voter...?) may have caused Rahami to go off the deep end.
The fairly crude bombs were easily traced to him: His fingerprints were literally all over the devices. Unbelievably, he used a personal cell phone -- not a burner -- as a trigger. The cops found him sleeping in the doorway or foyer of a bar in NJ, on the run and bereft of a place to hide.
Given the circumstances, it's hard to believe that this man had accomplices. It's also hard to believe that he ever possessed much common sense or any ability to plan ahead. Welcome to The Ahmad Rahami Amateur Hour.
He had been to Afghanistan and Pakistan a number of times, and was subject to intensive questioning by American authorities, but always managed to persuade investigators that he was visiting family members. So far, I haven't seen hard evidence that he was radicalized during these trips, although regular patrons of the family's restaurant have said that he became more devout after his last trip to Afghanistan.
ISIS, for its part, has not claimed credit for -- or solidarity with -- these bombing attacks. They did so in the Minnesota stabbing case.
All in all, it's easy to fall in line with the "lone nut" theory. However...
Rachel Maddow noted something odd about the explosives: They were all constructed differently. The unexploded pressure cooker bomb found on 27th street was made with HMTD -- hexamethylene triperoxide diamine. The one that did go off on 23rd street used Tannerite, a combo of ammonia nitrate and aluminum powder. The New Jersey devices were standard pipe bombs made with black powder in one instance and with HMTD in another.
Isn't it rather odd for one mad bomber to be so experimental?
Not only that. I saw a CNN segment yesterday which claimed that the police have a surveillance tape, not yet released to the public, which shows Rahami dragging a duffel bag containing the pressure cooker to the spot where the device was found. (See here.) But: After Rahami leaves, two other men show up, remove the pressure cooker (adorned with duct tape, wiring and cell phone) and abscond with the bag, leaving the device on the ground.
The unpleasantness in Boston taught us all about the unorthodox uses to which pressure cookers can be put. The mere sight of such a thing should have frightened the bejeebus out of those two guys. Yet we are to believe that they simply made off with the carrying case -- "Free duffel bag! AWRIGHT!" -- and went merrily on their way.
On the other hand, if we presume that those two guys were fellow terrorists, the story still doesn't make any sense. Why not leave the bomb in the bag?
At some point before Rahami's capture, an "unimpeachable source" told Geraldo Rivera that five Afghans had been arrested. The same story appeared in the NY Post. A simple mistake? Possibly. Where's the follow-up story? So far, I've yet to see one.
Dear reader, if you have an explanatory scenario for this madness, I am all attention. Normally, I'd check out what folks are saying on Reddit, but who wants to wade through the inevitable river of anti-Clinton conspiracy theories?
We must note that -- at this writing -- Rahami has confessed to nothing. I suppose that, with sufficient imagination, one could construct a scenario in which a convenient patsy was subjected to a particularly elaborate frame. (I know, I know: Unlikely. You can take the blogger out of Hollywood, but you can't take the Hollywood out of the blogger.)
I seriously doubt Trump knows or cares about any of the amendments, which conservatives will discover to their horror if he gets elected. Of course, I imagine congress will stonewall Trump at every turn, since both Republicans and Democrats will be against most of what he tries to do. The same could happen to Clinton, though, I suppose, as the Republicans will likely subject her to the same treatment (or worse) they gave Obama. We'll see.
As to the bombings, I don't really know anymore than you do. Right now, it does sound like amateur hour and a guy that was a little too bent out of shape. We'll need more info to really form a different opinion, at this point.
posted by Gus : 9:53 AM
Donald Trump is incensed that Rahami (an American citizen) will receive the services of a lawyer.
At least he wasn't summarily executed without benefit of trial like al-Awlaki (or, for that matter, without ever having been charged with anything like al-Awlaki's son). They were American citizens, too.
posted by Propertius : 1:25 PM
The five arrested were the bomber's extended family. The cops knew who they were looking for and stopped the car in hopes he would be with them. No conspiracy here. As for the duffle bag, this should be further evidence that people are incredibly stupid as the most likely explanation is some idiots stole the bag. The same thing happened to the device near the NJ train station which was discovered, and almost detonated, by a homeless guy who wisely told the cops.
Prop, I have no doubt that Trump will do such a things a LOT.
But you know that my personal theory of Awlaki is that he was always an American agent-in-place and that his killing (along with that of his son) were fakes designed to cover his exfiltration. If you look up my earlier posts, you'll see that there is some evidence for this.
There I go, sounding like Alex Jones again. Someone slap me out of it!
There were two things that finally led me to endorse Secretary Clinton: The first was that I did quite a bit of homework to understand all the allegations that were directed toward her and found almost all not based on fact and the remainder far from material. The tipping issues were Trump’s positions on NATO, our treaties, dealing with our allies, his comments on nuclear weapons, and his lack of understanding of the concept of deterrence. His ignorance of these issues scared the shit out of me.
I made the mistake of assuming that he had to have some interest in learning and keeping up with world events. That he would make the effort to learn what he didn’t know. I obviously was wrong. I can’t say it enough that learning how to learn is one of the greatest skills anyone can have. It’s why I advocate that everyone go to college. I love being challenged and defending my positions and, when I’m wrong, learning from the exchange. It makes me smarter and better as a businessperson. That’s the key difference between us. Trump never takes on the intellectual challenge. He doesn’t even try. He just talks about having a good brain. :)
"His anti-immigrant, anti-refugee, and anti-Muslim rhetoric totally validates ISIS claims that Muslims are unwelcome in Europe and the U.S., and that they would be better off living in its so-called caliphate," she said. “ISIS exploits these inflammatory statements to mobilize its supporters around the idea that the West—and America in particular—is hostile to Islam."
Revkin reported that an Islamic State sympathizer from Anbar province in Iraq, with whom she had been corresponding over Twitter direct message, told her that any of the Republicans were preferable for ISIS to Democrats.
“I hope and I predict that the Republicans will win [the presidential election] and they will run wild,” the sympathizer said. “ There will be a devastating war and I believe that America will collapse like the Soviet Union.”
The ISIS exchange completely fills in the timing of Trump's statements in the past with subsequent terrorist bombings. ISIS want's Trump to win, and they will do what they can to justify Trumps anti terrorist statements.
>>> This assessment was echoed by the DEBKA File publication, which has close ties to Israeli intelligence. “The Pentagon and US army are not following the orders of their Commander-in-Chief Barack Obama in the execution of the military cooperation accord in Syria concluded by US Secretary of State John Kerry and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov in Geneva on Sept. 12,” it wrote.
It cited concerns by top US defense officials that the terms of the cease-fire give Russia too much of an "opportunity to study the combat methods and tactics practiced by the US Navy and Air force in real battlefield conditions." For this reason, the Pentagon is opposing it even after it was agreed to by Kerry: "Washington sources report that Defense Secretary Carter maintains that he can't act against a law enacted by Congress. He was referring to the law that prohibits all military-to-military relations with Russia as a result of Moscow's annexation of the Crimea region of Ukraine." <<<
On a visit to the grocery store, I simultaneously burst into a fit of laughter and nearly had a second heart attack. What caused that reaction? The cover of the latest National Enquirer.
Folks, the online version does no justice to the outrageous propaganda barrage awaiting you at the checkout line: On the cover, Hillary has been Photoshopped to look like a zombie, while the headline proclaims that her "real" medical report indicates liver damage from drinking.
On the inside, the story says that her weight has ballooned to 289 pounds -- and she's only 5'6"!
By contrast, that latest letter from Trump's Dr. Feelgood hilariously claims that Fat Donnie is 6'3" and that he weighs only 236 pounds. Oddly enough, photographic evidence reveals that Trump is shorter than Jeb Bush, who really is 6'3". As for Trump's weight: Does anyone truly believe that Mr. Taco Bowl is only 236? Yeah. Right. And I'm the Cloverfield Monster.
In case you're interested, Hillary's real weight is under 135.
Back to the Enquirer: It's not enough to say "Nobody believes that tabloid rag," because quite a few people do. Besides, a national publication's credibility (or lack thereof) does not give it the right to commit libel. The comment about liver damage from drinking is clearly actionable, even though Hillary Clinton is a public figure.
There is a very close precedent: In 1981, Carol Burnett successfully sued the Enquirer after the tabloid published a story claiming that she had been seen drunk in public.
A $100,000,000 lawsuit filed against the Enquirer would dominate the news cycle and force people to confront the fact that the media has lied incessantly about Hillary Clinton. Moreover, it will force other news and pseudonews outlets to reconsider the filthy hoaxes that they've been peddling. They might even start publishing retractions. (Besides, if she loses the election, the money would be a nice consolation prize -- not to mention the satisfaction derived from ridding the world of American Media Inc.)
Hillary needs to start doing bold, dramatic, headline-grabbing things. Her staff keeps telling her to play it safe. Right now, "playing it safe" places the world in danger.
Perhaps the Global 1% have informed Mrs. Clinton that she will be the next President, whatever the Orc-hordes of National Enquirer "readers" and alt-right Fake Tough Guys on social media (who would soil themselves and run at the first whiff of grapeshot) think, and so she sees no need for urgency.
"Playing it safe" is one of her more annoying traits. And it's not just an undeserved label, stuck on her by Trump's or Bernie's people. It goes back to her husband's presidency and his penchant for triangulating any position he'd take.
I get your outrage, but it's beneath her. Best to just ignore idiots. If she sued, then it would be a news story. And suddenly, it will be all that matters. She'll win the election and keep her head high.
Ivory Bill, you've been a friend to the blog and I hate to say anything against you. That's why I've held my tongue heretofore. But this nonsense you keep spouting about the "elite conspiracy" is silly and simplistic. The world doesn't work like this. Donald Trump and Roger Stone both know who runs the world. They know better than you do or I do. And Trump and Stone seem quite convinced that Trump has a good chance...which he does.
The ELmer Fudd accusation is fair. Actually, when I wrote that comment it was originally longer. I started to go on a long rant about how well I know the conspiracy theory subculture and that's how I know that it can easily became a way to pull the wool over your own eyes.
Take it from one who has been there and done that, and who regrets a LOT of the idiotic shit he once believed or at least half-believed or at least was willing to consider possible. If you can't see my point now...well, maybe one day you will.
Eh--(chews carrot)--sorry if I snapped at you, Doc.
I normally don't put much faith in conspiracy theories, but I give some credence to "rigging the voting computers" due to the razor-thin "victory" margins of the Chimperial Cheney Campaigns. However, sure, I could be mistaken--the Chimperor's men may simply have deftly executed the same old GOP strategy of exploiting white resentment, with the margins being thin only because of the demographic and attitudinal shifts which made Rove a genius in 2000 and 2004, but made him a pathetic has-been ("I have the math!") in 2012, failing (and fading) because he still thought the USA was a White Man's Land.
May the Ascended Madoka grant that Stone will have missed dat left toin at Albakoiky, and will prove to be Rove 2012 rather than Rove 2000. May this year bring not the culminating triumph of Stone's foul career, but the political version of the K-T Asteroid Impact for Stone, for Trump, and for their legions of White Dinosaurs.
Thou shalt not trust any electronic voting machine unless it leaves a verifiable paper trail. With that said, I enjoyed the conversation, and I agree with the owner that sueing the National Asswipe would be a good move. It addition to reasons stated above, I think it would send a message to lie-peddlers and Facebook posters that they aren't completely immune to recourse when it comes to lying.
National Enquirer fakes stories and photographs for elites of all stripes, from the British royals, "celebs" of all nations, and USA would-be royals such as Herself. Why should she be treated with kid gloves?
By the way, if Hillary is 5ft 6 ins, I do not believe her weight is 135 lbs. I'm that height myself and was 135 lbs a few years ago (am a little more these days in my 70s). At 135lbs my figure looked nothing like Hillary's - I considered it my ideal weight and "look". She might well have weighted 135 lbs once upon a time, maybe not that long ago, but not now, in my opinion.
I have met her in person and had my arm around her while taking a picture with her. She is very likely 135 pounds and appears heavier on TV than in person. She is not as large as you think. Also, on some occasions, I have heard that she is wearing a bullet proof vest for safety reasons.
I really didn't have anything to say about this post until this morning. It doesn't mean anything or change anything, just pointing this out.
I see these publications every time I checkout at the local market and always read them while in line. I saw the Hillary zombie, Cher is on her way out to pasture (on drugs and broke) and Jan Michael Vincent is also at death's door and Chevy Chase is so fat, he makes Rush Limbaugh look like Jack La Lane.
Anyway, the point is WEEKS ago I was reading about affairs and such with Brad & Angelina and how their marriage was game over.
This morning ALL the mainstream media is today reporting the tragic break-up of Brad & Angelina. I'm just saying they scooped the hell out of that story.
That was pretty funny indeed, I thought maybe you made it at first. It obviously pokes fun at Trump and what an idiot he is. It nailed lots of his regular lines perfectly.
Curious, other stuff I read around here says over and over and over and over and over (you get the idea) that the media only publishes negative stuff against Hillary but a quick Google search shows Doonesbury is published in over 1400 publications daily...nowadays, I'm pretty sure that might be All of them because that is about 1390 more than I can name.
I went to the Doonesbury site and looked at the last few Months and poking fun at Trump seems to be a theme over there (some funny shit) but I saw nothing about Hillary. Nothing about baskets of idiots, coughing, stumbling, nothing at all. Gotta be a joke there somewhere unless...
Why would the slanted media that hates Hillary and wants Trump elected publish anything like this? Just trying to stay on track and follow your writings assuming you are 100% correct about everything so this confuses me.
I don't like it. Immediately after the NYC bombing, Donald Trump spewed his usual spew -- "Everything's going to hell, folks: Only I can save you." I expected a lot more of that. I expected more conclusion-hopping, more unseemly and unpresidential chest-thumping, more me-me-me-ME. I also expected him to capitalize on the Minnesota stabbings, an event seemingly intended to put Trump in office.
But he didn't do it. Instead, he has been uncannily muted, aside from a standard tweet of condolence. The bad boy has behaved himself.
That's not good for Democrats. I still don't think that Hillary can win this election, but Donald Trump can certainly lose it. He heads into loser territory every time he gives the public a glimpse of his ugly, malformed psyche. Hillary always looks like the better option after Donald spews incoherent paranoia and reveals himself as a frothing, snarling carrier of political rabies. Unfortunately, his handlers -- he has handlers now -- have applied duct tape to his Twitter-fingers.